Leo*Leo reflects on Violence, Chadwick Stokes Tour & The Dispatch Question

This week we arrived to Boston.  Vanessa flew back to Los Angeles.  We’re applying to NXNE, waiting to hear back from SXSW.  We have so much to be grateful for and we are.

Also, we took time while on tour to discuss what has been going on in the media recently.  The social injustices, the riots, the opinions.  Our unreleased song “Going/Been” discusses a relationship where it can be difficult to pin point the beginning, the forward movement and the steps backward –  suffering and confusion.  We send our thoughts and encourage your voices.  Fists are not necessary.

Chadwick Soktes and Vanessa Wheeler discuss their amp

Chadwick Stokes and Vanessa Wheeler discuss her guitar

Last week we received the fantastic opportunity of supporting Chadwick Stokes in his tour to DC, Philly, and NYC.  We played 3 sold out shows.  Two of the biggest venues we’ve ever played:  The Hamilton & The Bowery Ballroom.  We met incredible, passionate, talented people like Ryan Gaughan (and Stef Emery!!!!) and every musician in Chad’s band – along with his powerful wife, Sybil.  Daniel Schwartz and staff took care of us with kindness and generosity in D.C.  The crowd there was so warm.  This was the first time we witnessed the inspiring performance of Mr. Stokes!  The guitarist, Stevy played so tastefully & wild, J.R.’s drumming was in the pocket, Martin’s bass & keys were classic-soulful- and Casey Sullivan (also of Air Traffic Controller)  sang like 4 angels.  Will’s harmonies, trombone, & floor tom added another emotional and harmonic depth to each song.

In Philly, Jules took care of us at the Boot & Saddle.  The audience was so spirited – singing along to the cover of Chad’s beautiful song “Don’t Have You” .  We loved seeing bearded men shamelessly dancing (and buying our pink t-shirts!).  We met Bruce Warren – a man with equal measures brain and passion for music, of the incredible radio station WXPN, and talked.  Just talked and got to know one another.  (P.S. the food in Philly was SOO good).

On December 4th, we made it to Trenton, New Jersey.  Yes, Trenton.  Firstly, let’s be clear – this town has some of the sweetest, most welcoming people we’ve come across.  We went to the Trenton Farmer’s market, ate gluten-free at Button’s Creperie – where the crepes are better than in Paris.   The Hambone Opera was unbelievable.  That BBQ sauce is unreal :).  Food aside, everyone we met was so warm.  We stayed at the Wyndham, thanks to Peter & John Morris – this would be the first night of good sleep.  When our truck wouldn’t start (despite knowing the problem) we had 3 strangers appear to offer us tools and assistance.  We met n’ made a new friend and creative mind from Trenton that day, Black Collar Biz,  (performed with him on stage at the Bowery the next day-adding a rap to Dancing Queen) and got to witness his dedication to community & music at Black Diamond Studios.  We are going to work on song together soon and cannot wait to make it back to Trenton.  We love that town.

In NYC, we made care packages for refugees with folks from Calling All Crows.  Our parking Karma was right on and we were able to stay in front of the Bowery Ballroom all night.  Thank you to Kieran for being so inviting.  We met new friends, Damian, Benjamin, Victoria, and Mike – and got to hang with our favorite bassist, Drew.  This would be the night when we’d close our set with the hip hop version of  Dancing Queen – to a crowd swaying hands and cheering us on.  We felt incredible to have so many people support us by singing along and participating in conversation us on stage.  Sarah Hope’s parents were in the crowd where we finally got the chance to thank them publicly for their unwavering support.  We could not have done any of this without them.

We hope that you all could feel how much this experience meant to us.  We loved your energy – each city different from the next.

Thank you to Chadwick, team and family for taking us on this magnificent ride.  :))))

Please include yourself in our memories by signing up to our email list – we will be dispersing video and pictures that we captured (courtesy of Jenn Márquez Photography).  Also, let us know if you have pictures/video of the show that you want to share – whether you gottem on Instagram, Twitter or YouTube !  Find us on PANDORA and totally connect with us whenever.  We’d love to hear from you.

You may email us at: hello<at>leoleoband<dot>com

LASTLY, so many Chad fanatics have been asking us what we know about Dispatch and whether or not the boys are getting back together.  We are not gossips SO we’re just gonna say that the year 2015 is going to be a GREAT one in music and maybe, just maybe:  CLICK HERE

If you’re in the area come see us Jan.17th at the Sinclair!!






Leo*Leo – Why The Rock Relies on You

This week in music news Taylor Swift gave the “fingah” to Spotify when the Swedish audio digtal streamer declined streaming Swift’s new release to it’s premium paid membership.

Bob Lefsetz, industry professional blogger-ish, continues to ride this story line into all of the time zone sunsets.  His take-away?  The girl is short sighted.

Fine. Maybe. Perhaps. Mayhaps.

OR is she ?

She has the power, AND MONEY, and POPULARITY, to be able to do this without having to pause thought and mull it over.  Taylor Swift is her own label (this isn’t completely accurate but close enough) and has established herself amongst fans as a follow-worthy individually.  She can sell Taylor Swift raisins and, regardless of quality, people will buy them for themselves and as stocking stuffers for their #BFFs and/or children.  I wouldn’t be surprised if TS builds a branded Spotify competitor with a catalog of her songs…and perhaps other people whose music she supports (ahem, cough cough, Ed Sharon).

This is our prediction. It is what we would do if we were her (including resources, connections, of course).

Eventually, she will opt out of music altogether.  She doesn’t depend on album sales for her income anymore. <—- or she shouldn’t.  The moment we make money from music we are going to invest it (we are working on a book re: this :>).  For more specific information on why Taylor Swift made the right choice – please read George Howard’s piece in the New York Times.

Regardless, we support her decision and we look forward to the day that we can join her, The Beatles, and Garth Brooks.  In the meantime -until our pockets runneth over – the following discusses how YOU, our listeners, can make change, literally.

Also, we will address some of the mysteries of Spotify math.


People ask us this question: “Don’t you think you get to spread your music even if you don’t get paid much?”

Well, no.  The thing is that often times, unless you are a ‘featured’ artist (and to be featured you must be represented by a label, pay Spotify money for some sort of relationship, pay into advertising, or under the table ‘pay’ somehow else) OR people actively look for you – there is no real random rotation of the music.  It is all about favoritism, unlike PANDORA (we will get to this later on).

Also, one must assume that they are CORRECTLY indexed in the SPOTIFY database in order to be “heard”.  Leo*Leo was incorreclty indexed for 7 months – and every time someone clicked on our image or name – a different artist’s music was getting played.  That artist had an extremely offensive name & track.  The song was not even in our own genre.

7 months.

This is why we didn’t advertise that we were on Spotify.  This is why we lost certain key sponsorships.

We will share this story with you later in our journey.


So how much does an artist make every time YOU play one of the songs?  It varies but it is no more than .0084 per play.

For us, we get paid .006 per play.  And it only counts as a “play” if you stream it for 70% of the song.
This means you would need to play one of our songs 16 and 1/2 times in order to give us ONE penny.
When was the last time you bought 16.5 somethings for 1 cent?
In order for Leo*Leo to make 1$ — you would need to play a song 166.5 times.
We’ve included a calculator for you to be able to do the calculations.

1. If everyone with an internet connection in the world (roughly: 2,802,478,934) plays one of our songs 1 time then we will make :
$16,814,873.604 —-> Before Taxes. 🙂
2. If everyone reading this subscribes to our Leo*Leo Artist Page and adds us on a few playlists you can help us make money by:
a. Playing the evening playlist on repeat overnight (muted)
b. Adding us into a cool mix of playlists during the day.
c. Copying our Spotify url —–> https://play.spotify.com/artist/2nImhz03SrpUq2uB4KMV1C

d. BOYCOTT streaming and go directly to Artist sites : click on all of the ads they have, Pay for their albums/songs, Support with monthly memberships to content.

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for more information on SPOTIFY related things please check out Sven Grundberg’s article in The Wall Street Journal and George Howard’s brilliant piece in the NY Times!

IN OTHER NEWS – big things happened for us this week

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